tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965824120120454342.post8498162384668807973..comments2023-10-21T11:44:45.588+01:00Comments on ResidentAlien: Missing JapanMary Witzlhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06458299046574564155noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965824120120454342.post-75682585928663759082009-11-23T18:48:43.685+00:002009-11-23T18:48:43.685+00:00Martha -- Our time in Japan overlapped by a couple...Martha -- Our time in Japan overlapped by a couple of years; I left in 1990 and came back in 1992. <br /><br />I remember Seisen because it was in Setagaya, where I used to live -- or so I seem to remember. <br /><br />Katie -- You're ahead of me, then! I can count to 500, do fruits and vegetables, days of the week, months, and a dozen or so phrases. And I know the words for 'Shut up' and 'You lazy thing, you!' Sigh...Mary Witzlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06458299046574564155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965824120120454342.post-52250479919397824342009-11-07T16:21:44.986+00:002009-11-07T16:21:44.986+00:00I still remember the two Turkish phrases I had to ...I still remember the two Turkish phrases I had to recite in the receiving line at my brother's wedding. Don't know how they're spelled, but if I were in Turkey, people would know what I was saying... even if I didn't.<br /><br />I also remember "diet cola" with all the proper emphasis. ;-)Katie Alenderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15693819955523038560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965824120120454342.post-61909432776631549252009-11-04T17:46:47.589+00:002009-11-04T17:46:47.589+00:00Yikes! After four straight hours of teaching we s...Yikes! After four straight hours of teaching we should sweep you away to a turkish spa!<br /><br />I was in Japan from 1986-1992. I went to Seisen for elementary school.Martha Flynnhttp://marthaflynn.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965824120120454342.post-16215899880598468132009-11-04T15:52:32.899+00:002009-11-04T15:52:32.899+00:00Adrienne -- They're in a real pickle. Half of ...Adrienne -- They're in a real pickle. Half of them suspect I really don't know a thing; half of them are convinced that I'm just putting on a show of ignorance. They don't know what they can and can't say. Actually, that's pretty nice.<br /><br />Kara -- Once, when I was utterly exhausted after six straight hours of teaching and barely knew which end was up and which was down, I DID speak to them in Japanese, utterly by accident. It didn't make a blind bit of difference. The awful truth is, I think they thought it was English.<br /><br />Martha -- Any old time! How about Thursday morning, just before my four straight hours of teaching pre-intermediate kids who are 65% real beginners?<br /><br />Where were you in Japan?Mary Witzlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06458299046574564155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965824120120454342.post-88450064031146227942009-11-03T09:48:07.600+00:002009-11-03T09:48:07.600+00:00I also miss Japan. When can we run away together?...I also miss Japan. When can we run away together?Martha Flynnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07577165520610942727noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965824120120454342.post-67298521378719943942009-11-03T02:37:31.768+00:002009-11-03T02:37:31.768+00:00you should just answer in japanese. problem solved...you should just answer in japanese. problem solved! though i'm not sure how.karahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01690274092026593186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965824120120454342.post-51605711110301649772009-11-02T23:24:52.745+00:002009-11-02T23:24:52.745+00:00At least they must be careful what they say in fro...At least they must be careful what they say in front of you! You can learn enough Turkish to keep them guessing...Adriennehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05583029102450754497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965824120120454342.post-52406850529179328882009-11-02T05:08:52.062+00:002009-11-02T05:08:52.062+00:00Falak -- Ah, but at least you know three languages...Falak -- Ah, but at least you know three languages. Think how much worse an American would feel in your shoes.<br /><br />Laura -- I couldn't, though: as a general rule I don't speak the politician language. Forked Tongue, that is. <br /><br />AP -- Thank you for liking my stories!<br /><br />Actually, it's not a Tokyo thing, it's a where-you-live-and-are-known thing. That is why your son is accepted in Osaka, but not in Tokyo, and why my family and I had trouble whenever I went out of our sphere of acquaintance. In my own neighborhood in Abiko, a commuter town of Tokyo, everybody knew I spoke Japanese and I didn't have to go through the whole song and dance. Whenever I went to a new place, though, I had to go through the 'I really do understand thing' again and again. I used to feel that my face spoke louder than my voice. The minute they saw me, most strangers froze and thought, 'Uh oh: English'.Mary Witzlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06458299046574564155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965824120120454342.post-77608979640424942512009-11-02T03:08:00.029+00:002009-11-02T03:08:00.029+00:00My very tall, blond son speaks Japanese but when i...My very tall, blond son speaks Japanese but when in Tokyo they always answer in English even if he speaks Japanese first. <br />In Osaka where he lives they seem to take you at face value and he has never had any problem. Didn't you live in Tokyo ? Maybe it is just Tokyo thing ?<br /><br />As always so enjoy your stories...angryparsniphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17236094827257446781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965824120120454342.post-2227359597672639352009-11-01T22:17:40.232+00:002009-11-01T22:17:40.232+00:00To be incapable and thought capable sounds like mo...To be incapable and thought capable sounds like most of our world leaders. Maybe you should run for an office!!laurahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17174697892947430149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965824120120454342.post-33118536738346304272009-10-31T13:04:54.216+00:002009-10-31T13:04:54.216+00:00Ha! You hit the bull's eye there! I speak thre...Ha! You hit the bull's eye there! I speak three languages pretty fluently but not knowing the one that gets government officials and shopkeepers going makes my knowledge useless:)Falakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08321524864693512771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965824120120454342.post-6928969077644403152009-10-31T13:01:06.145+00:002009-10-31T13:01:06.145+00:00Helen -- You are right: a chocolate anything is go...Helen -- You are right: a chocolate anything is good, just not very useful.<br /><br />I've got a pact with myself: the minute I manage to sell something big that I've written, or failing that, land an agent, then I will post my author photo on my blog. I'm shy about sticking it out there where everybody can see it. (Especially since I've already described it as a silk purse from a sow's ear...)Mary Witzlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06458299046574564155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965824120120454342.post-92207350472714124862009-10-30T21:04:14.759+00:002009-10-30T21:04:14.759+00:00Hey Mary - A chocolate toothbrush would be the so ...Hey Mary - A chocolate toothbrush would be the so cool! Anyway, just to change the subject completely, I'd love to see the "author photograph" that Kim took of you. How about putting it on your blog?Helenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00693689301853592917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965824120120454342.post-44235104488936152732009-10-30T19:23:58.371+00:002009-10-30T19:23:58.371+00:00P -- Oh, I am SO going to use that on my very last...P -- Oh, I am SO going to use that on my very last day of class! I'll start practicing it right now and I should be fluent in, let's see...seven months' time. <br /><br />Falak -- I've never met anyone from the Subcontinent who doesn't know at the very least two languages. I have Sri Lankan students who speak Tamil, English, and Sinhalese, and some of them can understand a few others too. I am in awe of them. I'll bet you can speak at least two, right? And yet Indians who speak two languages often feel ashamed that they don't know more. We need that attitude in America.<br /><br />Lily -- The one thing that really makes people want to learn a language is the need to communicate in it. Studying a language for the sake of studying it is a dry, sad business. No doubt that's just how my students feel. . .<br /><br />Word Wrangler -- Thank you for visiting my blog!<br /><br />Being able to speak Japanese was a great skill to have in Japan. Here it's about as useful as a chocolate toothbrush. I find myself wanting to tell people that I'm really not a linguistic dunce, I'm more of a one-trick pony.Mary Witzlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06458299046574564155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965824120120454342.post-60085294205485446662009-10-30T17:25:49.508+00:002009-10-30T17:25:49.508+00:00SO.... let me ask you a question. Do you speak Tur...SO.... let me ask you a question. Do you speak Turkish? ;) <br /><br />Seriously, I think it's awesome that you are fluent in japanese. That would be a fantastic skill to have!<br /><br />peace,<br />DonnaWrite2ignitehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17266315375662322726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965824120120454342.post-36664635452223329862009-10-30T15:13:56.756+00:002009-10-30T15:13:56.756+00:00I would love to learn a forgein language, but I th...I would love to learn a forgein language, but I think part of the problem is living in an area where there is virtually no opportunity to use it. Sigh.Lily Catehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17732112345439595471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965824120120454342.post-22972079899379185902009-10-29T14:35:40.638+00:002009-10-29T14:35:40.638+00:00I know how thst feels! In Bombay you can get by if...I know how thst feels! In Bombay you can get by if you know Hindi but Marathi is the language that they speak here. People just assume that you know how to converse in Marathi. I look dumbstruck everytime people at the railway station or in the train ask me something in marathi and nod my head in answer. At times it makes me feel foolish :PFalakhttp://muchadoabouteverything-falak.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965824120120454342.post-89913249657617531702009-10-29T14:33:24.392+00:002009-10-29T14:33:24.392+00:00"Even if I did know Turkish, I'd be damne..."Even if I did know Turkish, I'd be damned if I'd use it in this class. Now shut up and open your book." equals "Türkçe konuşabilsem bile bunu derste yapamam! Şimdi kapa çeneni ve kitabını aç!"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965824120120454342.post-17619949873919616592009-10-29T07:34:31.273+00:002009-10-29T07:34:31.273+00:00Patrick -- You should definitely go for a visit. J...Patrick -- You should definitely go for a visit. Japan is a fascinating country -- all the more so if you study the language a little before you go. <br /><br />Anne -- I first went to Japan in my young 20s, when my brain was still pliable. I can speak, read and write Japanese, though my writing sometimes makes people smile -- or frown in confusion. <br /><br />My problem here is that a number of my colleagues who are not native Turks speak Turkish very well, making my own tiny efforts look pitiful by comparison. I need to surround myself with monoglot dunces -- that would do wonders for my ego.<br /><br />Charles -- It really doesn't make sense, but there it is! When I lived in the Netherlands, a lot of people thought I was Dutch, but as soon as I told them I couldn't speak Dutch, they left me alone. Not so here. You're probably right: the kids want to know whether I speak Turkish or not so they can feel free to diss me in class.<br /><br />Vijaya -- I'd make a GREAT Turk -- I already look the part! It's really a thrill to be able to 'pass' this way. I just wish I could better fulfill so many people's linguistic expectations. <br /><br />Postman -- I have mastered the Turkish for "I'm sorry, but I don't speak Turkish." I've polished my rendition of this pretty well and it generally has the desired effect, so I know I'm not butchering the pronunciation. But you're right: it sort of defeats the purpose: instead of letting yourself off the hook, you just sound like you're holding out. I suspect the best thing to do is to say this with a really crappy accent, but my pride won't let me. <br /><br />Robin -- Ha! Mehmet is plenty daft, but he's not trying to win my middle-aged heart (or -- sigh -- body). Besides, there are half a dozen pretty young teachers he could try this on. I suspect he's just trying to curry favor in order to get better grades. Or to find out if I'm offended over all the things he's been saying behind my back in Turkish.<br /><br />Bish -- 'Turnish' sounds like a fun language. And Japanese and Turkish have some similarities: they are written phonetically (unlike English) and both languages lack irritating and hard-to-learn features like auxiliaries and articles.<br /><br />And I am definitely going to try speaking Japanese in class. Though 70% of my class are such thickos they'll probably just assume I'm speaking English...<br /><br />Helen -- I learned Japanese when I was a lot younger, and I was thrilled to be learning a language that everyone assured me I'd never learn: that was a huge attraction. <br /><br />What I'd really like to learn in Turkish is the sentence, "Even if I did know Turkish, I'd be damned if I'd use it in this class. Now shut up and open your book." But if I ever used that even once, there would be no end of trouble: they'd never let up on me. <br /><br />Charlie -- Yo hablo a little Spanglish myself, hombre! Que tal, mi amigo?<br /><br />One of my Turkish students, a really sweet, hard-working kid, went to work in Florida this summer. He learned a lot of English, but he also met a lot of Hispanic people there and came home with a burning desire to learn Spanish. I love it that all the Spanish-speaking people he met were so kind and supportive that they made him want to learn their language too. Even if he ends up with Spanglish highly flavored with Turkish, I'm still thrilled with his achievement -- and even more, his attitude. <br /><br />MG -- I really have no time to learn Turkish -- especially this semester, as we are all being worked a lot harder. The truth is, I don't really need it, but I still want to learn. It would also mean that 75% of the Turkish-speaking staff would have to go to another room to gossip.Mary Witzlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06458299046574564155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965824120120454342.post-8093336885065561502009-10-29T03:03:16.410+00:002009-10-29T03:03:16.410+00:00Oh, my goodness, this is so funny. I can't ima...Oh, my goodness, this is so funny. I can't imagine being in your position. Good luck learning Turkish, if you choose to do so. Although it doesn't really seem necessary.MG Higginshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03584010470283038023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965824120120454342.post-29509337648644025952009-10-29T01:50:25.865+00:002009-10-29T01:50:25.865+00:00We have a little different situation here with suc...We have a little different situation here with such a high Hispanic population. We have a mutual pidgin language called Spanglish: a conversation is carried on with words from both Spanish and English.<br /><br />As time goes by, I've learned a lot of Spanish, and vice versa. I figure I only need another 20 years to have a really <i>bueno</i> handle on Español.Charliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00722567671925063706noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965824120120454342.post-65728196884402088872009-10-28T22:32:09.768+00:002009-10-28T22:32:09.768+00:00Aaah Mary, whatever. In my books you are a legend ...Aaah Mary, whatever. In my books you are a legend for being able to speak just one foreign language. There is always the desire to have some credibility wherever we go isn't there - with your time in Japan, it must have been your love for the people and country that made you want to be accepted. You perhaps need to learn the phrase in Turkish "I know what you're up to Mehmet".Helenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00693689301853592917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965824120120454342.post-45222313338588927232009-10-28T21:57:21.736+00:002009-10-28T21:57:21.736+00:00What? Turnish and Japanese aren't the same lan...What? Turnish and Japanese aren't the same language?<br /><br />Maybe you could confound your students by speaking Japanese when they speak Turkish to you. LOLBish Denhamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13359927719391990534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965824120120454342.post-21029247938675090092009-10-28T20:34:48.964+00:002009-10-28T20:34:48.964+00:00I hope he wasn't whispering, "I think you...I hope he wasn't whispering, "I think you're hot. Wanna go out Friday night?" in Turkish.<br /><br />It is uber cool that you speak Japanese. I even think it's uber cool that you can count to five and name fruits in Turkish. I consider you Turkish and Japanese. You're Jurkish. Hmmm. You can be Tapanese if you'd like.Robinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12396540555696283171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965824120120454342.post-89949800745683527932009-10-28T20:32:47.992+00:002009-10-28T20:32:47.992+00:00Zowie. Who'd have thought you'd have the e...Zowie. Who'd have thought you'd have the exact opposite problem you had in Japan elsewhere in Asia? That's wacky. But I think perhaps it's both an eagerness to communicate and a desire to teach you something back that makes international students speak to their teachers in their native tongues. My kids used to do it to me all the time, even though for the first seven months of my sojourn I couldn't speak Korean. They used to ask me if I could speak it all the time, and even if I said "no" it failed to register with them. <br /><br />I eventually went ahead and learned the Korean phrase for "I don't speak Korean" out of irritation, but perhaps that did more harm than good...A.T. Posthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03987529687181431843noreply@blogger.com