tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965824120120454342.post4618591165918920535..comments2023-10-21T11:44:45.588+01:00Comments on ResidentAlien: Preaching To The ConvertedMary Witzlhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06458299046574564155noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965824120120454342.post-36406174519248704902009-04-24T21:58:00.000+01:002009-04-24T21:58:00.000+01:00Eryl -- Come to think of it, I'm a vast improvemen...Eryl -- Come to think of it, I'm a vast improvement, cleanliness wise, on my adolescent self. It's good that some things evolve the right way, isn't it? <br /><br />The untidy people I live with try too. And none of them ever threw an empty cigarette pack on the grass...<br /><br />AnneS -- I've promised my kids not to post what I've found in their drawers on this blog. Let's just say that it easily rivals your son's ice cream cartons, and I'm sure their friends would have the same reaction.<br /><br />When I was living with my cousin in Miami, I can still remember being shocked at how quickly trash and crud accumulated, and how fast things like bread and milk got used up. Like you, I'd never really considered who was doing all the work. Isn't it fun to imagine our kids having the same wake up calls?<br /><br />Kara -- That is exactly how I feel: not littering is your basic lowest common denominator, the very least you can do to be a Good Human Being. It's hard to watch someone litter and retain any respect for them at all. <br /><br />(I can't watch all of that blue-tooth thing! My computer won't let me -- I'm going to have to call in one of my kids for technical assistance...)Mary Witzlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06458299046574564155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965824120120454342.post-76238688212616625532009-04-24T18:59:00.000+01:002009-04-24T18:59:00.000+01:00i go off on people for littering. if one does noth...i go off on people for littering. if one does nothing else for this planet, they can at least keep their shit off the ground. <br /><br />the above are my true larry david moments and i'm not even ashamed:<br /><br />http://www.5min.com/Video/How-to-handle-annoying-bluetooth-guys-11918karahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01690274092026593186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965824120120454342.post-90914276552431077712009-04-24T18:53:00.000+01:002009-04-24T18:53:00.000+01:00Son #1 has an unbreakable habit of putting the emp...Son #1 has an unbreakable habit of putting the empty ice cream cartons inside his desk drawer. I mention this in front of his friends and they're like, "So, what's your problem with rotting dairy products anyway?" <br /><br />I say that, but I also remember returning home from my first full day of classes as a college freshman and I was shocked, even a little outraged, that my wet towel was still on my unmade bed, the laundry was still dirty, and no one had left me any snacks or notes on my desk. I think at that moment, I got at least some of what my mom had done for me for a very long time.Anne Spollenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12915171740680350711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965824120120454342.post-80699415383549331472009-04-24T17:47:00.000+01:002009-04-24T17:47:00.000+01:00If it helps any most of the teenagers I have known...If it helps any most of the teenagers I have known were hideously untidy and unthinking about trash, but almost none of the adults I know are like that and a lot of them are the same people. The only person I know who is still as bad as ever is the one I married, and even he tries.Erylhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06008344023000459577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965824120120454342.post-30447442773391528242009-04-24T17:02:00.000+01:002009-04-24T17:02:00.000+01:00Adrienne -- I think you're right. It's odd, though...Adrienne -- I think you're right. It's odd, though: I wasn't born with my sense of order, but I've definitely acquired it for good. My husband has a different, generally inferior sense of order. (He would dispute that, but this is MY blog...) The kids tend to take after him. I'm hoping one day they'll acquire a proper sense of order, too.<br /><br />Robin -- The awful truth is that there are countries with worse litter problems than the U.S. And almost every 'developing' (for lack of a better word) country I've been to or heard of has a litter problem that makes ours look ho-hum. Even so-called 'developed' countries like Scotland have litter problems. Sad, isn't it?<br /><br />My kids haven't made the connection with trashing their rooms and littering, either. They think it's okay to trash the house, but not okay to trash the streets. At least I know now that it's not just mine!<br /><br />PI -- Thank you -- I'm telling myself that too. And I haven't given up. I believe in pester power, or nagging, or whatever you wan to call it. They haven't heard the last of this!Mary Witzlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06458299046574564155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965824120120454342.post-51258002233542890992009-04-24T16:38:00.000+01:002009-04-24T16:38:00.000+01:00Don't despair Mary. I'm so glad you tried and som...Don't despair Mary. I'm so glad you tried and sometimes it takes a while for it to sink in.Pathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01529798893653033970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965824120120454342.post-90697607881093213872009-04-24T03:59:00.000+01:002009-04-24T03:59:00.000+01:00Slovenly behavior appears to be a universal phenom...Slovenly behavior appears to be a universal phenomenon. I'm so sad. I was hoping salt water washed it off as you cross the ocean.<br /><br />My kids are weird (in sooooo many ways). Their rooms look like scary disaster areas, but they'll call the police if you pollute the environment. They think litterbugs should get the death penalty. Other litterbugs, that is.Robinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12396540555696283171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965824120120454342.post-33853277388929733152009-04-23T17:20:00.000+01:002009-04-23T17:20:00.000+01:00(Oops. I need to learn to proof before I hit publi...(Oops. I need to learn to proof before I hit publish...)<br /><br />It seems like a sense that some people have and some people don't. I think my son and I have some sense of order, and my husband and daughter don't. Like J.A. Palermo commented - I swear they do not see the mess they create.Adriennehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05583029102450754497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965824120120454342.post-56211087231036283132009-04-23T17:13:00.000+01:002009-04-23T17:13:00.000+01:00This comment has been removed by the author.Adriennehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05583029102450754497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965824120120454342.post-33927166559413802202009-04-23T17:10:00.000+01:002009-04-23T17:10:00.000+01:00Kim -- Sometimes I do this, when it's a slow morni...Kim -- Sometimes I do this, when it's a slow morning and only a handful of kids are there. The problem is, it's always the most conscientious kids who are there first and I hate to penalize them. I love the idea of sensitizing kids to resent other litterers, though, and naming the stuff in English. "Crisp packet! Empty water bottle! Sneezed on Kleenex, ewww!" Sounds fun.<br /><br />Bish -- I always ask the kids if they do that in their own rooms and they look surprised. "No, tee-cha!" And I've asked them to think of the classroom as their own living room, but they just don't get it. I suspect they're lying about how they behave in their living rooms, though I'll probably never know.<br /><br />J A -- Thank you for commenting!<br /><br />My kids' rooms are no-go areas too. But some kids are naturally tidy, and I can't help but feel a little wistful about them. I wonder why I didn't get a couple of kids like that myself.<br /><br />PN -- My parents were passionate non-litterers too, so you're right: this is something that we instill in our kids. My teenagers are hogs in their own rooms, but they never litter. Good for you, telling your husband's granny not to litter, too: you're never too old to learn!<br /><br />Apparently, the British expatriates who live here have complained about how bad the litter problem is, and that alone has made a lot of people notice the problem. Every time we go to the beach, I collect a couple of shopping bags full of plastic bits: bottles, lids (I get many dozens of these, in particular), shoes, cans -- all sorts of junk. No one pays me the least bit of mind. They probably figure I like picking up other people's garbage.Mary Witzlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06458299046574564155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965824120120454342.post-84550345416168397132009-04-23T14:27:00.000+01:002009-04-23T14:27:00.000+01:00This was initially one of the hardest things for m...This was initially one of the hardest things for me in adjusting to life overseas. But I have a vague memory of learning about littering in school and joining Smokey the Bear and Woodsy the Owl clubs (Give a hoot! Don't pollute!) as a child. My parents were also firmly convicted that all littering was wrong, but I remember my husband's grandmother attempting to litter before we stopped her. I think it takes a whole generation to change, and they have to get the message nonstop as children, followed by some hefty fines as adults. <br />Also, there's a different way of thinking. I picked up a bit of litter on a Moroccan street and was told, "If we all did that, we would take away a street-sweeper's job." I explained that no we wouldn't, but wasn't convincing. <br />What a long comment! Sorry. And after 8 years in Africa, I'm still not used to the littering! It makes me so mad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965824120120454342.post-75992100778662672382009-04-23T14:15:00.000+01:002009-04-23T14:15:00.000+01:00I have two boys in high school. I swear they do no...I have two boys in high school. I swear they do not see the mess they create. It certainly doesn't bother them one bit. I try to stay out of their rooms as much as possible.J.A. Palermohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18325616361174334630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965824120120454342.post-40939478542005829132009-04-23T13:07:00.000+01:002009-04-23T13:07:00.000+01:00Having worked with my share of unconscious kids I ...Having worked with my share of unconscious kids I sometimes asked them if they threw trash on their livingroom floors? No of course not. I asked them why? Well, because...and all the usual reasons. So I asked why it was OK to trash the earth, our only true home? I asked them to think of the earth as a big livingroom and to treat it the same way they treated their home. This would at least get them thinking. (Of course there will always those who are thoughtless, remain unconscious, and for some reason live like pigs.)Bish Denhamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13359927719391990534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965824120120454342.post-28037496897214493472009-04-23T11:53:00.000+01:002009-04-23T11:53:00.000+01:00Maybe if you got them to tidy the room before the ...Maybe if you got them to tidy the room <I>before</I> the lesson started, so they're cleaning up the mess left by the previous occupants, they'd become converts to snarling at people who don't bother with bins.<br /><br />And if they have to name each item they pick up in English too...Kim Ayreshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02656677501116622953noreply@blogger.com